Morgan Spurlock On The Super Size #MeToo Life Lessons Learned After His Voluntary Trip Down The Rabbit Hole


When Tremendous Dimension Me drew an Oscar nom and blew a lid off of how briskly meals franchises had been fattening America, Morgan Spurlock grew to become that uncommon celeb documentary filmmaker, as identifiable in his first-person movies as Michael Moore is in his. Spurlock received there by consuming a lot quick meals that his pores and skin greyed, his waistline bloated and his organs appeared on the verge of failing. For Tremendous Dimension Me 2: Holy Rooster!, Spurlock takes on the guise of a hen grower for instance lies that make customers consider they’re maintaining a healthy diet after they aren’t, and exposes how the main poultry meals producers exploit the hen farmers who take their eggs containing birds particularly bred to develop so giant, so rapidly that it turns into a race to get them on grocery store cabinets earlier than their hearts explode and bones break as a result of the birds merely can not assist their very own weight. A wonky sweepstakes fee system enacted by the Massive Rooster companies for optimum management left many of those farmers, notably those that converse out, hopelessly in debt, their paltry poultry proceeds leaving them barely in a position to survive.

The Tremendous Dimension Me sequel drew a robust response two Toronto Movie Festivals in the past, the place Spurlock received a $three.5 million distribution deal from YouTube Pink that instantly put the movie in revenue, and promised a theatrical and VOD launch that ensured that the hen farmers who sued Massive Rooster and risked themselves by showing in and serving to Spurlock develop his personal hen crop for the movie would have their day within the court docket of public opinion. It will be an essential movie for Spurlock’s Warrior Poets, the place he and his cohorts had quite a few documentary collection and movies percolating.

Two months later, every thing was gone inside days of Spurlock voluntarily posting a confessional essay on social media. Behind the scenes, success introduced extra and unhappiness for Spurlock. After watching the rise of #MeToo and a line of male Hollywood executives uncovered and toppled for harassment and worse perpetrated towards ladies, Spurlock’s essay labeled himself “part of the problem.” His revelation of such private particulars as being sexually abused as a youth, and of unchecked despair and alcoholism received drowned out within the blunt particulars of his typically boorish conduct towards ladies. He described a boozy bed room encounter in faculty he believed was consensual, however which led the opposite scholar to put in writing a classroom essay through which she named Spurlock and thought she may need been raped; there was an admission he settled a sexual harassment allegation at his workplace with a payoff to an assistant to whom he made marginalizing references like “hot pants.” And the way he had been untrue to each girlfriend he ever had.

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Spurlock was so certain his come clear missive would provoke wanted dialogue concerning the rising specter of “MeToo and Instances Up that he grew impatient for it to be observed, and despatched it repeatedly to retailers like The New York Instances. Simply to verify it didn’t get misplaced. Then he ready to enter rehab. The outcomes weren’t what he imagined. Spurlock misinterpret the extent of boiled up anger from ladies who for too lengthy had been marginalized and handled second class, with some being pressured to see their pure ambition and goals get twisted to serve the perverse wishes of highly effective males. Relatively than provoke dialogue, Spurlock was successfully banished, lumped in with outed serial predators.

By the point he returned from rehab for his alcohol downside, Spurlock’s firm was gone. YouTube Pink bailed on the film deal and received its a refund; all 65 workers at Warrior Poets had been let go; and initiatives just like the TNT docu-series on ladies’s points achieved in partnership with Sarah Jessica Parker had been scrapped. It frayed his marriage and left on the hook the hen growers who risked their livelihoods to look in Holy Rooster!, hoping that large publicity would possibly ease their hardship the best way the unique film spurred reforms within the quick meals business.

Reduce to at this time. Spurlock discovered a extra modest and low key launch for the sequel via Goldwyn, which distributed the primary Tremendous Dimension Me and not too long ago opened the sequel in a small variety of theaters in New York, LA, Chicago and different main cities earlier than it received launched on digital, the place it may well now be seen. Spurlock has been selling it with the identical form of pop up hen sandwich restaurant seen within the movie. He’ll be there one other week, on 23rd Road and fifth Avenue in Manhattan, slinging hen sandwiches and arduous truths concerning the poultry business.

Spurlock’s determination to come back clear lends it self to a simple parallel to Jerry Maguire. In that movie, an existential disaster “mission statement” written by Tom Cruise’s sports activities agent and dispersed to co-workers noticed him instantly lose his job, noticed all however one consumer hearth him, and noticed him lose his girlfriend. It despatched him on a journey that left him a greater man, even when he was nonetheless struggling to come back again professionally. Redemption films have at all times been a staple in Hollywood, however is there room within the business for an imperfect man who desires to renew his storytelling profession? That exploration would be the subsequent step within the evolution of Spurlock, who not too long ago took Deadline via an in depth tour of his self-inflicted journey down the rabbit gap, tearing up quite a few occasions over lunch as he recounted the ache his determination to make use of social media as a confessional induced his household, associates and colleagues, and his profession.

DEADLINE: There’s a second early in Holy Rooster! the place you discuss your plan to go undercover as a hen grower to uncover abuses within the business. You say, “If I’ve learned anything from making a career out of questionable life choices, sometimes the only way to solve a problem is to become part of that problem.” Given that’s the language you used to start out your fateful essay, did you think about the irony and maybe considered dropping it from the brand new movie?

SPURLOCK: No. It wasn’t my intention [to draw parallels]. The entire thought after we made the movie was, I needed to change into part of the machine. So to change into a part of that machine to inform the story is what makes the movie so enjoyable. To change into the person backstage, to get to change into form of Colonel Sanders on this journey. i don’t know, it’s a kind of issues the place I so separated the 2 [the documentary and the essay]…I see the connection, however I really feel just like the film lives in its personal universe, separate from what my life lives in.

DEADLINE: Why did you publish that essay at such a harsh second in tradition and particularly the leisure enterprise?

SPURLOCK: A confluence of occasions led to this. I had simply gotten again from a movie competition in Dubai, the place we confirmed the movie, and for days I used to be there residing it up, as you do at movie festivals. After I received house, I stated to my spouse, I received to vary my life. And that subsequent morning, I wakened…and this was earlier than I had written any of this…and from the espresso store below my workplace, I booked myself into rehab. Later that morning, I went to a health care provider I used to be seeing about one thing else that was occurring inside my household. We had been speaking about simply form of the historical past of despair within the household. I stated, effectively, there’s nothing on my aspect of the household. He requested, what about you? I stated, I’m depressed day-after-day. He says, what do you imply you’re depressed day-after-day? When? I stated, each morning once I get up and each night time once I go to mattress. He stated, what do you do? I stated, I stand up and I begin my day, I put my ft on the ground. I received a household that I like, an workplace stuffed with people who rely on me. I received a job that I really feel so lucky to get to do day-after-day. However the minute all of it stops? Additionally, I used to be occupied with every thing that was occurring at the moment. There have been plenty of ladies in our workplace, and [the issue of harassment] was a topic that was talked about on a regular basis. As I used to be driving again into town from this physician’s appointment, I stated to myself, I’ve to speak about this. It began off with me considering I wanted to first discuss my despair and discuss what I’d been going via, the best way I emotionally felt on the time. After which it simply form of grew right into a a lot greater factor for me. It grew to become this stream of consciousness emotional purge that I simply needed to get out. This second the place it’s like, I’ve to speak about this. Whether or not it was a second of readability or guilt, I felt like I wanted to come clean with issues that occurred in my previous. As any individual who has made a profession out of looking for the reality and to speak about issues…I needed to say that I can do higher, I will be higher.

DEADLINE: Did one thing occur in Dubai to immediate this excessive want to vary your life?


SPURLOCK: I received again Monday, and I wrote this on Wednesday night time. I feel it was simply years of post-Tremendous Dimension me, put up the separation and the divorce from my ex-wife, falling in love with my present spouse…

DEADLINE: The ex was the dietician we noticed in Tremendous Dimension Me?

SPURLOCK: Appropriate.

DEADLINE: Having lined films so lengthy, I typically relate circumstances to scenes in movies. Yours was the Jerry Maguire mission assertion, and that second in Platoon the place Keith David’s King character says to Charlie Sheen, wait, you volunteered for this sh*t? Which got here closest to the way you felt after the essay received extensively publicized and doorways started closing?

SPURLOCK: I imply, it wasn’t like I used to be standing behind the room going, ooh, are these scarlet letters? Let me get one. That wasn’t my intention or hope. I assume the Jerry Maguire analogy might be very shut as a result of I felt like I wanted to share one thing within the midst of this dialog that simply appeared to dominate that second in time. And social media felt like one thing that may take you all the way down to a spot the place…you’re feeling like you might be speaking to somebody who’s like…you and I having this dialog. But it surely’s a lot completely different than that.

DEADLINE: Nicely, the distinction, particularly in that second, is that after years of abuse, there was zero latitude for indiscretion, even one which occurred a long time in the past. I discover even within the feedback on Deadline tales a prevailing want to see folks ended, after they admit flaws. However you had been the one who wrote that essay and pressed the button, as a substitute of confessing to a priest or therapise. What do you most remorse about that call?

SPURLOCK: I remorse plenty of issues about it. I remorse the influence it had on my household. I remorse the influence it had on my friendships. I remorse the influence it had on 65 folks, who had been working in my workplace, after which, inside per week had been all of a sudden out of a job. The week earlier than Christmas, who all of a sudden had…

DEADLINE: It occurred that quick?

SPURLOCK: That quick. Inside per week, every thing was achieved.

DEADLINE: Which means?

SPURLOCK: Each undertaking. YouTube purchased Tremendous Dimension Me. I revealed that essay Wednesday. They pulled out of the movie by that Friday.

DEADLINE: I recall they received a bidding battle and paid $three.5 million for distribution rights and so they had been going to launch it large, a signature movie for a brand new participant in indie movie.

SPURLOCK: Yeah. So, the movie was within the black, simply from that deal, which by no means occurs for a documentary. We had been so enthusiastic about, it was an excellent distribution partnership. The movie was going to go to Sundance after which SXSW. And all of it fell aside, together with every thing else we had been engaged on. All of the TV exhibits, all the flicks. Every thing went away. That didn’t damage almost as a lot as the truth that all the individuals who I liked and cared about and who trusted all this nice artistic stuff we had been making at that firm had been all of a sudden out of labor. To be in that place proper earlier than the vacations was the worst factor ever.

DEADLINE: I went again and appeared on the reader feedback that adopted Deadline’s report about your essay. There was a prevailing opinion that, effectively, he tried to get out in entrance earlier than some expose got here out, earlier than the practice hit him. And but I didn’t see a litany of girls saying they’d been victimized…

SPURLOCK: No, there wasn’t something like that and that wasn’t the explanation. For me, it was only a second the place I actually felt compelled to come back clear, to share the behavioral errors that I’d made alongside the best way and the lapses of behavioral judgement that I’d made that I needed to come clean with. All of us make unhealthy decisions over time, and for me, it was a kind of issues the place I needed to place that on the market, as an individual and as a person, as a husband, as a father. To say I wish to admit and settle for the issues that I’d achieved, and determine a method to transfer ahead. And I’ve to say, I’m grateful for the way I really feel at this time, on day 620 of my sobriety. I grew to become devoted to creating amends.

DEADLINE: To whom did you make amends?

SPURLOCK: I’ve tried to make proper with my household, and to make amends, to folks over time that I felt like I ought to’ve handled higher alongside the best way. That’s a giant a part of the journey, proper now.

DEADLINE: You talked about that incident in faculty. There have been no formal costs. Did you hear from that girl after your essay?


DEADLINE: Why did you’re feeling so strongly about discussing that faculty encounter?

SPURLOCK: I simply felt prefer it was one thing that I wanted to only focus on in a manner that will permit me to let go of this second that caught in my head and made me really feel remorse and disgrace.

DEADLINE: You talked about you informed your spouse you had been going to do one thing if you returned from that competition. What influence did all this have in your marriage?

SPURLOCK: You imply with my spouse? I’d quite not go there. I really feel like I’ve introduced her and my household into sufficient of the dialog that I’d quite maintain that half out of it, at this level.


DEADLINE: You talked about an assistant whom you known as “hot pants” and “sex pants,” to whom you paid a settlement when she left the job to maintain it quiet. I recall studying a couple of younger girl who received an identical job working for Dustin Hoffman and when she requested what he needed for breakfast he made a crude feminine anatomical comment for the amusement of his associates. You can simply think about how marginalized and minimize down that younger girl will need to have felt, being so younger and listening to that from somebody so well-known. I couldn’t perceive how Hoffman could possibly be so insensitive when he may have stated one thing optimistic which may have bolstered her confidence and ambition to be a part of this business. Why would you say one thing like that to the younger girl in your workplace? Was that forwards and backwards banter regular within the office at the moment?

SPURLOCK: After I look again on it, I remorse having stated this stuff. I feel I stated this stuff considering I used to be making a joke, that this stuff had been humorous. I take a look at my very own insecurities of how I handled issues for years, of how I made jokes about different folks or I’d make feedback about them. On the finish of the day, it was simply to make myself really feel higher and the basis of the years of despair that I had and nonetheless have.

DEADLINE: I not too long ago interviewed Sarah Treem for the launch of the ultimate season of her Showtime collection The Affair. She’s about as sharp a author as you’ll come throughout, and she or he was speaking about how she infused her personal expertise when she began within the enterprise, when youthful males would come from the identical Yale drama college program she did, and she or he needed to scream as a result of she couldn’t perceive why her bosses didn’t see the worth of her writing the best way they did the phrases written by these newcomers, as a result of they had been males. It made me think about how powerful it will need to have been for a lady to train her ambition in a male dominated enterprise. You’ve had time to consider all these things. What have you ever come to appreciate about how these ladies need to be handled within the office? Have been there some ladies who smartened you up on this topic?

SPURLOCK: I’ve talked to plenty of ladies, who labored for my firm for years, and individuals who work within the enterprise. And what I feel is, what’s occurring now could be essential, and vital. I feel the swing of the pendulum to place extra ladies in positions of energy, to raise the voices which have been silenced for thus lengthy, it issues. All of this has modified the best way that I take a look at how I wish to run an organization transferring ahead, and the people who I wish to work with and encompass myself with. I feel all of that has impacted me in an immense manner.

DEADLINE: Describe the aftermath of your essay, when all of a sudden you had been stepping down from Warrior Poets?

SPURLOCK: I didn’t step down. I went to rehab, and I feel my companions needed to make that announcement to attempt to salvage no matter work we may. I fully perceive and respect the selection that they made. However I got here again from rehab to the corporate and tried to maintain it going for a year-and-a-half. Till, finally, I filed for chapter in July.

DEADLINE: It will need to have been a far cry from when 65 folks labored for you…

SPURLOCK: It went all the way down to, once I got here again from California, there was myself, and my brother.

DEADLINE: Are you able to describe how that felt?

SPURLOCK: Principally, it’s an incredible feeling of loss. I used to be very unhappy. It was unhappy to have misplaced so many associates. It’s unhappy to have misplaced so many individuals that you just liked and had been surrounded by for thus lengthy. I walked into the workplace, and it was like a tomb. And every thing was precisely the place it was after we left. There was nonetheless like notebooks and Avids, and there have been nonetheless exhibits up on computer systems that individuals had been engaged on. It was actually similar to every thing stopped. Like that present The Leftovers, the place everyone had simply vanished. I got here into the workplace, and it was actually…it was so arduous to be there. However I attempted…and for me, the most important factor I didn’t wish to have go away was this film. We had this nice film that was sitting on a shelf. Aside from everyone within the workplace who relied on me, there have been these farmers who so trusted me and the very fact I let these guys down damage greater than something. For months, it grew to become, how do I get this factor that’s the most precious asset now we have proper now, out into the world. Thank goodness for Goldwyn, for Peter Goldwyn, who stepped as much as say, we wish to put this film out. They put the primary one out, and so they weren’t afraid to face by this one. And I’m actually grateful to them.

DEADLINE: You additionally had that TNT collection, a docu-series collaboration with Sarah Jessica Parker on ladies’s points…

SPURLOCK: Which additionally went away. Rapidly. One after the opposite. So, that was a Wednesday once I wrote that essay. That present was passed by Thursday.

DEADLINE: The conduct you described was not on the order of Harvey Weinstein, Les Moonves and others. What had been the conversations like as you tried to plead your case and save these initiatives?

SPURLOCK: Sure, however folks needed to…once more, I don’t fault anybody. We had been engaged on a present with them that was all about ladies’s rights and ladies’s points when this occurred. So we tried simply to extricate me from the method. However that wasn’t sufficient.

DEADLINE: The optics had been horrible, this from their standpoint…

SPURLOCK: I completely perceive. We even tried to only give the present to Fairly Matches in order that they might simply take it and make it. By that time, TNT, I don’t consider they needed to maneuver ahead with it. Simply based mostly on the form of baggage, that I used to be related to it, from their perspective.

DEADLINE: Was it just like the dialog with YouTube Pink over Tremendous Dimension Me 2: Holy Rooster!?

SPURLOCK: I had a dialog. And once more, it was a tough dialog as a result of all of us love the film. However they simply felt they couldn’t put it out.

DEADLINE: Watching Holy Rooster!, the plight of these farmers is far of the spine of a reasonably terrific movie. They put themselves in danger serving to you develop the chickens you used on your pop up restaurant. They usually had been blacklisted by Massive Rooster for serving to you and showing within the film. What had been these conversations like, telling them you misplaced distribution?

SPURLOCK: I referred to as Jonathan and his spouse Connie, they’re within the movie.

DEADLINE: His image’s on the wall of the pop up restaurant on the finish of the movie.

SPURLOCK: Appropriate. I referred to as the 2 of them on my method to rehab. On my method to get on the airplane to go. And I used to be crying, and so they had been crying. They stated, we simply hope you’re okay, and that was…oh, it simply makes me cry over again [he tears up].

DEADLINE: That was selfless of them. Your essay handled a tangle of complicated private points. You talked about alcoholism and despair, you disclosed that you just had been molested as a teen. Had you ever talked to anybody about that earlier than?

SPURLOCK: By no means.

DEADLINE: Or sought out medical care which may have included taking an anti-depressant?

SPURLOCK: By no means medicated. That was the factor, however that was a part of it. I used to be self-medicating for a very long time. Plenty of this started I assume round like 2010, 2011. It was even earlier than that – Tremendous Dimension Me got here out in 2004 — however I feel it simply form of amplified extra as extra began to occur.

DEADLINE: What issue is it when a film like Tremendous Dimension Me hits the best way it did? Documentary makers particularly again then principally toil in anonymity. However your movie made you a star…

SPURLOCK: It was thrilling, overwhelming, and also you’re all of a sudden thrust right into a world the place there’s plenty of alternative for consuming, for unhealthy conduct. It continued to develop and amplify all the best way as much as 2017, once I had this second of readability that I wanted to vary. I feel folks have a really particular view of alcoholism, which is that it means you’re going out and also you’re consuming day-after-day, that you’re hitting the sauce beginning within the morning, that you’ve got the bottle of vodka in your desk drawer. It’s not like that. I believed I used to be a social drinker; I’d exit a pair occasions per week. However you go to a drinks assembly, right into a dinner assembly, after which one other drink assembly after that, and I’d get to the purpose the place I’d make unhealthy behavioral decisions.

DEADLINE: Fueled by the cumulative impact of the alcohol?

SPURLOCK: Yeah, I feel fueled by that and likewise fueled by…I had this black gap that I used to be persevering with attempting to fill inside me. And it was crammed via these forms of actions, so it was alcoholism, it was workaholism. It was all about, how do I extra, how do I work extra, how do I proceed to develop this enterprise that I’ve, this chance and this profession that I’m constructing. So it was actually similar to, extra, on a regular basis. And it led to different decisions.

DEADLINE: How did rehab enable you to deal with all this?

SPURLOCK: I feel, it gave me readability. It simply gave me a second to step again and take a look at me, and perceive why I had made the alternatives I’d made, why I’ve acted the best way that I did. It was a spot that was for twin analysis, additionally a spot the place I may go and for the primary time in my life, have actual open conversations about despair. It was transformative for me. I do know for lots of people that it doesn’t work. However for me, I got here again and noticed the world in a really completely different manner, and noticed my actions otherwise. I noticed the best way I needed to dwell my life and deal with folks, the husband I needed to be, the daddy I needed to be, in a really completely different manner.

DEADLINE: What’s the most precious lesson you’ve realized?

SPURLOCK: Gratitude.

DEADLINE: Despite the fact that you broken your profession and misplaced your organization to get right here?

SPURLOCK: Yeah. I feel it’s…making me emotional once more [he pauses to compose himself]. It’s a kind of issues the place you get swept up within the moments [of career accomplishment], and also you lose sight of being grateful to the folks round you, your loved ones. It was arduous once I checked out how I handled plenty of the relationships that I had, didn’t present the love and gratitude to them once I ought to have. It hurts, lots. And the way I feel I may have…I feel…I don’t know, I feel gratitude is the large half.

DEADLINE: Does this rebuilding proceed after you stroll out of rehab?

SPURLOCK: It doesn’t finish. I’m in AA, I’m working the steps, I’m within the course of of creating amends to the people who I like and care about and that I really feel like I would like to actually attain out to and converse to. It’s a part of the journey and the method, proper now, for me.

DEADLINE: Lots of people, those you labored with, paid a excessive worth for that essay. How have they responded?

SPURLOCK: There are individuals who wish to sit down and discuss to me, there’s individuals who don’t. There’s nonetheless plenty of ache related to it in some ways. For me, it’s persevering with to simply accept that and transfer ahead. I’m extra current in my life than I’ve ever been. I’m extra current in my child’s life than I’ve ever been. My relationship with my household, that’s been one of the best a part of this entire course of.

DEADLINE: What may need occurred had you remained on the observe you had been on, and never written that essay?

SPURLOCK: It’s an actual query. I had simply shot a daytime discuss present pilot for a community that had been inexperienced lighted to maneuver ahead and go to market. This was December, we had been going out in January, and we’d already been assembly with all of the consumers, the syndicators, every thing was tremendous optimistic. Aside from Tremendous Dimension Me 2, we had a few different films that we had been doing, we had three or 4 TV exhibits that had been transferring ahead, a bunch of digital collection…it’s a kind of issues the place I look again at what I’ve realized but in addition what we had been constructing. I’m grateful for what we had been in a position to do, and I’m grateful for what I’ve realized. Does it damage typically? In fact, it does, however all I can do is proceed to be nearly as good a supporter of different folks, of girls, of males, of younger filmmakers, of the people who I used to be actually attempting to champion for a very long time.

DEADLINE: So that you went via all this, and we’ve seen plenty of debate about whether or not Nate Parker, about Roman Polanski or Woody Allen can decide up their careers despite this unforgiving second we’re in. What’s your feeling about returning to Hollywood, and the thought of all these males being let again into the fold?

SPURLOCK: I can’t converse to anybody else besides myself. All I can do is proceed to do the work to change into extra of an individual that I do know I wish to be. I feel that it’s not going to be a brief highway, it’s going to take time. However pay attention, I like what I do. I’m hopeful that I can go from this and begin doing what I like to do, that’s crucial factor for me. All I’ve ever needed to do was be a storyteller. I hope I get to do it once more.

DEADLINE: What’s going to make Holy Rooster a hit, in your thoughts?

SPURLOCK: If we are able to deliver some justice to those farmers, deliver the dialog out about what occurs within the business and the way they’re handled, for me that will be an excellent victory. I hope my traders make their a refund. I imply, they did after which it received taken away, after which we’re on this excellent spot with Goldwyn the place the movie’s really popping out. I hope they get to see some ROI, and I hope the farmers get justice. For me, that’s success.

DEADLINE: Your distribution association isn’t almost as profitable because the YouTube deal. How troublesome was it to set that film up after it received dropped?

SPURLOCK: It was powerful. It was actually me for a yr, knocking on doorways and assembly with the people who I believed would have an interest, and it wasn’t even till simply concerning the yr mark once I spoke to Peter Goldwyn and he stated, we’d wish to attempt to determine it out. It was powerful. I met with lots of people who stated no. However that is the movie enterprise, I’m used to lots of people saying no.

DEADLINE: You needed to be shocked by the severity of the chilly shoulder you encountered after that essay. Was the tough judgment truthful?

SPURLOCK: I can’t gauge whether or not or not it was truthful. I feel it was a second in time and what occurred to me was only a pure development of the second. I feel, on the heels of what I did and what I stated and once I stated it, within the type through which I did it, it was nearly an inevitable final result due to the place we had been at the moment. So I can’t fault anybody for the alternatives that they made. We live in a spectacular time of change and these are nice issues which might be occurring. I simply hope that I get to proceed to be part of the change in that story. A part of the explanation I wrote that essay within the first place, was to be on the correct aspect of it. I’m hopeful that in time, with the work that I do and the adjustments that I proceed to undergo, that I will be there on the correct aspect.



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